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A Modern Jewish Review of Female Chauvanist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture - jonahrank
A Modern Jewish Review of Female Chauvanist Pigs: Women and the Rise of Raunch Culture
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From: lady_eclectic Date: July 9th, 2009 10:34 pm (UTC) (Link)
I'm very much a Rabbinic Jew, with all the kulot and chumrot that entails and I tend to be lenient when it comes to sexuality, which is partly cultural. (Even though I am a properly married woman myself ;)).

As for pants... I think most of the 'halachic' basis for it is anecdotal and more of the 'go and see what the community does' variety. You're right: no serious Orthodox posek has paskened along these lines that I know of and no serious Conservative posek(et) has done so either because it's considered a non-issue in a very 'trouser'-wearing social reality. This issue should definately be researched halachically. I wear modest pants but I also wear short sleeves: which I've seen in the Modern Orthodox community: just not in the context of shul perhaps.

Just out of curiosity: do you consider yourself Orthodox or kinda Halachic/Post-denominational? I wonder what hatam_soferet has to say about this post.

Just crosspost it by joining the community, create a post and copy/paste the whole thing. Might wanna put it behind an LJ cut though since it's rather long.

Good luck!
jonahrank From: jonahrank Date: July 9th, 2009 10:59 pm (UTC) (Link)
Hmm... I actually tried crossposting this at the Modest Dress community, and it was deemed rather off-topic by a moderator, but I didn't try an LJ cut; that probably would have helped.

Getting back to your questions/answers:

I'd be curious to know your support for premarital sex in a Jewish context. Is it mostly the silence on the subject? I can understand that, on its own, as going either way (permissive or prohibitive).

I think you're right too on the pants issue.

As far as labels go, Conservative or Open Orthodox might be the best labels for me. Conservative is probably far more accurate though for the meantime. I know that all of my values have fitted in somewhere in the history of Conservative Judaism, but I am also interested in Open Orthodoxy because it's so young and still growing. I am curious to see what further developments we may see in Open Orthodoxy in terms of Egalitarianism, electricity on Shabbat, eating in non-Kosher restaurants, and such.

There's the idea that Conservative clergy and Conservative lay people really are not on the same page theologically or Halakhically, and I wonder to what extent this will be a truth in Open Orthodoxy as it evolves. (Crudely: will Conservative Rabbis preach to Reform Jews and Open Orthodox Rabbis to Orthodox Jews?)

As I get closer to applying to Rabbinical Schools, I continue to wonder if there's a community out there of more Jews who think the way that I do, and, if not, should and how could I aim to build one?
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